Showing posts with label 9/11 pager messages. Show all posts
Showing posts with label 9/11 pager messages. Show all posts

Saturday, November 28, 2009

Pager Messages and the Distorted Tilt.

While the Climatologists are studying their leaked archive of goodies, we 9/11 researchers have some of our own leaked goodies - half a million pager intercepts. I've had a look through most of the messages between 08:00 and 13:00. There isn't really anything as obviously damning as the ClimateGate emails but I've noticed a few things of interest.

Server crashes, messages relating to drills and reports of bombs/explosions all over the place are the most interesting. There were reports of bomb scares and car bomb attacks at the State Department Building, Hotel Washington, a treasury building, a school, an army recruiting office, a music production company, an energy company, even the Washington Monument! There were also reports of secondary explosions at the world trade center - yet more to add to the long list.

See this thread on the Prison Planet Forum for more:
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=145873.40

I've just watched part three of the recent Hardfire debate. Much attention was spent debating the significance of the tilt. Mackey uses these graphics to demonstrate what the tilt would have done to the lower floors and explain the lack of a jolt...



My problem with this analysis is that it assumes that the top portion of the building rotated about a fixed point, reached an angle of eight degrees and THEN started falling. I've seen similar analyses of the South Tower's collapse by debunkers. They assume it rotated approximately 20 degrees about a fulcrum and then the fulcrum gave way and the upper block just fell (completely ignoring the conservation of angular momentum). In the case of both towers, these models are incorrect. The tilts did not happen before the falls, the tilts happened during the falls.



As we see in the above video, there was a tilt, and the tilting may have started immediately. However, it did not reach eight degrees until the upper section had already fallen several floors. So even if an eight degree tilt could explain the lack of a jolt (which I don't believe it could), it's completely irrelevant in this case.

I've seen several videos of buildings being demolished using hydraulics where they literally drop the top half of the building onto the bottom half and there's always a noticeable deceleration when the top half impacts the bottom half. A number of them are in my video Fires, Explosions, Demolitions, Collapses, Crushdowns and the World Trade Center.

Of course this is completely pointless anyway. Anyone with more than two brain cells and an open mind can see that building didn't just fall down. In the same way anyone looking at the Zapruder film can see Kennedy was shot from the front. And the forensic evidence of reactants, products and by-products of various classes of thermite reactions proves demolition.

Related Info:

Distorted Tilt Confirmed

Thursday, November 26, 2009

Website Wikileaks publishes '9/11 messages'












The messages were said to have been sent on 11 September 2001

news.bbc.co.uk
Thursday, 26 November 2009
Page last updated at 00:39 GMT

A website has published what it says are 573,000 intercepted pager messages sent during the 9/11 attacks in the United States.

Wikileaks says it will not reveal who gave it the messages - some of which are from federal agencies as well as ordinary citizens.

Internet analysts say they believe the messages are genuine but federal authorities have refused to comment.

The attacks on 11 September 2001 left nearly 3,000 people dead.

The messages are being published over a 24-hour period, ending at 0800GMT on Thursday. They are being released simultaneously on Wikileaks and social networking site Twitter.

'Live' broadcast

The website is broadcasting each message at the time it was sent originally in 2001.

The first message was from 0300 local time (0800 GMT), five hours before the first attack in New York and the last 24 hours later.

The messages are not all about the attacks. Some are mundane questions about what people are having for lunch.

However, many are about the deadly plane attacks and range from people trying to find out if their loved ones are safe, to government messages, to computer server errors.

They include messages such as

This is Myrna, I will not rest until you get home, the second tower is down, I don't want to have to keep calling you after every event. Pls just go home

President has been rerouted won't be returning to Washington but not sure where he will go

Bomb detonated in World Trade Ctr. Pls get back to Mike Brady w/a quick assessment of your areas and contact us if anything is needed

New York's fire and police departments said they could not comment on whether messages purportedly sent from them were genuine while the US Secret Service refused to comment.

Pager company USA Mobility said it was troubled by the alleged interceptions, the Associated Press news agency reported.

Wikileaks allows people to anonymously post documents on the web, saying its aim is to promote transparency.

It was created in 2006 by dissidents, journalists, mathematicians and technologists from the US, Taiwan, Europe, Australia and South Africa.

Wikileaks spokesman Daniel Schmitt said the messages were submitted anonymously to the site several weeks ago.

He told Associated Press: "From the context information that the source provided we have strong reasons to believe that this is valid data."

He said the messages would help provide a fuller picture of what happened that day.

Related Info:

9/11 tragedy pager intercepts

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